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	<description>a hijrah...to Madinah Munawarra</description>
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		<title>by: suhaa</title>
		<link>http://suhaa.myminaret.com/2008/03/30/haramain-diversity-swells-big-time/#comment-1372</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>asalaam alaikum warahmat Allah wabarakatu:
dear sister marwa, may Allah accept your umrah and visits, returning you back to that holy ground for more. ameen. i am currently away from madinah..on the other side of the earth..US! so i know what your saying! i agree with you about the guards at the haram..they tend to get a bad reputation but in all honesty, they do have a very stressful job and must deal with all sorts of people. my first encounter with them when i went for umrah nearly 6 yrs ago was beautiful..and for the most part they still are the same..
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>asalaam alaikum warahmat Allah wabarakatu:<br />
dear sister marwa, may Allah accept your umrah and visits, returning you back to that holy ground for more. ameen. i am currently away from madinah..on the other side of the earth..US! so i know what your saying! i agree with you about the guards at the haram..they tend to get a bad reputation but in all honesty, they do have a very stressful job and must deal with all sorts of people. my first encounter with them when i went for umrah nearly 6 yrs ago was beautiful..and for the most part they still are the same..<br />
jazakAllah kheir
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		<title>by: Marwa</title>
		<link>http://suhaa.myminaret.com/2008/03/30/haramain-diversity-swells-big-time/#comment-1371</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Assalamu Alaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuhu

Only yesterday I returned home from the beloved city of our Prophet pbuh, and I miss it like crazy. SubhanAllah the emotions experienced during tawaf around the ka'aba and salah in Masjid Alnabawi are undescribable. The peace and tranquility I felt were overwhelming. :'( 
MashaAllah you are truly blessed to be residing in this blessed land. The last time I took a look at the haram alnabawi I felt incredibly sad to leave it behind. And now I'm back in the UK life seems very dull and has no taste. 

Jazakillahu Khayr for posting your experiences about the haramain, it was an interesting read!

I have to say though, that from my experience, the women guards at the entrance of masjid alnabawi are extremely caring and helpful. Their words are kind and they treat us with respect and compassion. However, we are all human beings and our patience does have limits. And when these guards do get impatient and raise their voices slightly I do not blame them. Their job is demanding and stressful, like you said, and on several occassions I have witnessed visitors raising their voices and arguing with the guards, whilst the guards try their best to remain calm. Most do, but the odd few do lose their patience. May Allah swt forgive us all. The guards inside the haram are more tolerant, I gathered. Maybe because they don't have to deal with women lying about having camera phones in their bags or screaming at a guard who won't let her 6 year old son inside. MashaAllah the guards inside are really compassionate. On one occassion I was sitting at the back, near to the entrance, reciting Quran whilst reclining on the marble wall behind. There was an old lady beside me lying down, half asleep. Two guards came and kindly asked me to move forward as the space at the back will be taken by wheelchair users. She then asked the lady next to me, and the lady was struggling to get up. One of the guards became worried, she knelt down and asked the lady politely if she was okay, to which she answered that she had pain in her stomach and felt faint. They checked her temperatire and brought her a glass of zamzam water, and then helped her onto the carpet, and kept a close eye on her for as long as I was there. These guards have kind hearts, and should be treated with respect and honour. May Allah swt bless them and enter them into Jannatul Firdaws. Ameen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Assalamu Alaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuhu</p>
<p>Only yesterday I returned home from the beloved city of our Prophet pbuh, and I miss it like crazy. SubhanAllah the emotions experienced during tawaf around the ka&#8217;aba and salah in Masjid Alnabawi are undescribable. The peace and tranquility I felt were overwhelming. :&#8217;(<br />
MashaAllah you are truly blessed to be residing in this blessed land. The last time I took a look at the haram alnabawi I felt incredibly sad to leave it behind. And now I&#8217;m back in the UK life seems very dull and has no taste. </p>
<p>Jazakillahu Khayr for posting your experiences about the haramain, it was an interesting read!</p>
<p>I have to say though, that from my experience, the women guards at the entrance of masjid alnabawi are extremely caring and helpful. Their words are kind and they treat us with respect and compassion. However, we are all human beings and our patience does have limits. And when these guards do get impatient and raise their voices slightly I do not blame them. Their job is demanding and stressful, like you said, and on several occassions I have witnessed visitors raising their voices and arguing with the guards, whilst the guards try their best to remain calm. Most do, but the odd few do lose their patience. May Allah swt forgive us all. The guards inside the haram are more tolerant, I gathered. Maybe because they don&#8217;t have to deal with women lying about having camera phones in their bags or screaming at a guard who won&#8217;t let her 6 year old son inside. MashaAllah the guards inside are really compassionate. On one occassion I was sitting at the back, near to the entrance, reciting Quran whilst reclining on the marble wall behind. There was an old lady beside me lying down, half asleep. Two guards came and kindly asked me to move forward as the space at the back will be taken by wheelchair users. She then asked the lady next to me, and the lady was struggling to get up. One of the guards became worried, she knelt down and asked the lady politely if she was okay, to which she answered that she had pain in her stomach and felt faint. They checked her temperatire and brought her a glass of zamzam water, and then helped her onto the carpet, and kept a close eye on her for as long as I was there. These guards have kind hearts, and should be treated with respect and honour. May Allah swt bless them and enter them into Jannatul Firdaws. Ameen.
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		<title>by: Umm Ibrahim</title>
		<link>http://suhaa.myminaret.com/2008/03/30/haramain-diversity-swells-big-time/#comment-733</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 13:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Assalaamu alaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakaatuh,
Interesting article (which I am a bit late reading!) - jazakillahu khair for your efforts dear sister. :) 
You and AlMiskeena bring up some very good points particularly pertaining to visitors and the fact that the package providers should educate them better about rules, regulation, expectations and norms in this country. Whether the camera phone is allowed or not, people should remain sensitive to other people's belief and not wave it around photographing everything in sight. It should be restricted to your own family or landmarks. Photography (siwar?) has always been an issue in the Islamic world and people would do well to rememer this.
Wassalaamu alaikum wa Rahmatulah, Umm Ibrahim x</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Assalaamu alaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakaatuh,<br />
Interesting article (which I am a bit late reading!) - jazakillahu khair for your efforts dear sister. <img src='http://suhaa.myminaret.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
You and AlMiskeena bring up some very good points particularly pertaining to visitors and the fact that the package providers should educate them better about rules, regulation, expectations and norms in this country. Whether the camera phone is allowed or not, people should remain sensitive to other people&#8217;s belief and not wave it around photographing everything in sight. It should be restricted to your own family or landmarks. Photography (siwar?) has always been an issue in the Islamic world and people would do well to rememer this.<br />
Wassalaamu alaikum wa Rahmatulah, Umm Ibrahim x
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		<title>by: sister</title>
		<link>http://suhaa.myminaret.com/2008/03/30/haramain-diversity-swells-big-time/#comment-707</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 12:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>assalaamualaykum warahmatiullahi wabarakaatuhu dear sister suhaa. jazakiAllah khairan for our reply. for now your dua for my family and i is enough but inshaAllah i will email/conact you soon regarding specifics for hijra to madinah (inshaAllah ameen)..wasSalaam,your sister in islam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>assalaamualaykum warahmatiullahi wabarakaatuhu dear sister suhaa. jazakiAllah khairan for our reply. for now your dua for my family and i is enough but inshaAllah i will email/conact you soon regarding specifics for hijra to madinah (inshaAllah ameen)..wasSalaam,your sister in islam
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		<title>by: suhaa</title>
		<link>http://suhaa.myminaret.com/2008/03/30/haramain-diversity-swells-big-time/#comment-704</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>asalaam alaikum warahmat Allah wabarakatu dear sister!!

may ALLAH facilitate a hijrah for you and your family to Madinah Munawarra for the sake of Allah, ameen. Insha'Allah I will continue to make this duaa for you. 

If there is anything else I can do sister then please let me know, I will be happy to help out in anyway I can inshaAllah..although duaa is certainly the best tool to help anyone, because all help comes from Allah, right?  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>asalaam alaikum warahmat Allah wabarakatu dear sister!!</p>
<p>may ALLAH facilitate a hijrah for you and your family to Madinah Munawarra for the sake of Allah, ameen. Insha&#8217;Allah I will continue to make this duaa for you. </p>
<p>If there is anything else I can do sister then please let me know, I will be happy to help out in anyway I can inshaAllah..although duaa is certainly the best tool to help anyone, because all help comes from Allah, right?  <img src='http://suhaa.myminaret.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: sister</title>
		<link>http://suhaa.myminaret.com/2008/03/30/haramain-diversity-swells-big-time/#comment-702</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>assalamualaykum warahmatullahi wabarakatuhu dearest sister suhaa...jumah mubarak.just a humble request from one yearning to be in the place that you have been blessed with as your home, to please make special dua for my family and i to join the residents of madinah very very soon inshaAllah ameen. wasSalaam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>assalamualaykum warahmatullahi wabarakatuhu dearest sister suhaa&#8230;jumah mubarak.just a humble request from one yearning to be in the place that you have been blessed with as your home, to please make special dua for my family and i to join the residents of madinah very very soon inshaAllah ameen. wasSalaam
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		<title>by: ShadeofRahmah</title>
		<link>http://suhaa.myminaret.com/2008/03/30/haramain-diversity-swells-big-time/#comment-690</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 21:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Can't say whether they are correct, since I haven't looked that closely at the Prophet's Mosque, but it's certainly not a good thing if there are articles being bandied around like this, misinforming people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t say whether they are correct, since I haven&#8217;t looked that closely at the Prophet&#8217;s Mosque, but it&#8217;s certainly not a good thing if there are articles being bandied around like this, misinforming people.
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		<title>by: suhaa</title>
		<link>http://suhaa.myminaret.com/2008/03/30/haramain-diversity-swells-big-time/#comment-689</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 11:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>oh and almiskeena..just for the record, i emailed the writer of that article directly..she denied what i said was true..and her response was such that it seemed english was not proficient..unlike in the article..which makes me wonder what sources Arab News use for some of their writing..unless its written in Arabic then a translator takes care of the final editting in english? not sure..Allah Knows Best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh and almiskeena..just for the record, i emailed the writer of that article directly..she denied what i said was true..and her response was such that it seemed english was not proficient..unlike in the article..which makes me wonder what sources Arab News use for some of their writing..unless its written in Arabic then a translator takes care of the final editting in english? not sure..Allah Knows Best.
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		<title>by: suhaa</title>
		<link>http://suhaa.myminaret.com/2008/03/30/haramain-diversity-swells-big-time/#comment-688</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 11:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>wa'alaikum asalaam warahmat Allah wabarakatu:
dear sr. almiskeena, jazakAllah kheir for your thoughtful comment. about the locker thing, yeah! i thought maybe she meant on the other side of the haram or something, that i had missed them because i havent seen them! 

your idea of having the women guards negate the entrances all together is a good idea, but there should be an organized way of getting through rather than being pushed and shoving to enter. maybe those gate like poles that you have to push in order to enter..like sometimes you see them in stores like extra, or at a trainstation back in the west..that i think would be much better..

i too get annoyed when i see the Quran on the floor or kids climbing the pillars inside..but even moreso when the moms are ignorning them..to care for children is fard, and more worthy in the sight of Allah than to pray in the masjid even Masjid an-Nabi and Allah knows best. 

as far calling out nationalities for Rawdah..yeah, i agree there are better ways for dealing with the situation..should be first come first serve--but again something to deal with the emotional rush that outweighs manners needs to be addressed too...especially in the presences of Rasullilah, sal Allahu alayhee wa sallam.

ok, so the billboard idea wasnt the best, but i, like you think that group leaders should educate the pilgrims before they get here. but some come here for umrah without groups..and so i think there has to be education here as well on the proper etiquettes and rules to abide by..maybe in the hotels. motels..or apartments being rented at check in or something?

barakAllah feeki dear sister..and may Allah reward you tremendously for all the knowledge you share! ameen.

to anyone else reading this i am highly reccommending that you go check out almiskeena's blog, mashaAllah, she is a resident of Madinah..much longer than I and she posts beneficial information with beautiful pics on history, geography, current happenings poems, and much more on our Ummah..most of which is related to Madinah Munawarra.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wa&#8217;alaikum asalaam warahmat Allah wabarakatu:<br />
dear sr. almiskeena, jazakAllah kheir for your thoughtful comment. about the locker thing, yeah! i thought maybe she meant on the other side of the haram or something, that i had missed them because i havent seen them! </p>
<p>your idea of having the women guards negate the entrances all together is a good idea, but there should be an organized way of getting through rather than being pushed and shoving to enter. maybe those gate like poles that you have to push in order to enter..like sometimes you see them in stores like extra, or at a trainstation back in the west..that i think would be much better..</p>
<p>i too get annoyed when i see the Quran on the floor or kids climbing the pillars inside..but even moreso when the moms are ignorning them..to care for children is fard, and more worthy in the sight of Allah than to pray in the masjid even Masjid an-Nabi and Allah knows best. </p>
<p>as far calling out nationalities for Rawdah..yeah, i agree there are better ways for dealing with the situation..should be first come first serve&#8211;but again something to deal with the emotional rush that outweighs manners needs to be addressed too&#8230;especially in the presences of Rasullilah, sal Allahu alayhee wa sallam.</p>
<p>ok, so the billboard idea wasnt the best, but i, like you think that group leaders should educate the pilgrims before they get here. but some come here for umrah without groups..and so i think there has to be education here as well on the proper etiquettes and rules to abide by..maybe in the hotels. motels..or apartments being rented at check in or something?</p>
<p>barakAllah feeki dear sister..and may Allah reward you tremendously for all the knowledge you share! ameen.</p>
<p>to anyone else reading this i am highly reccommending that you go check out almiskeena&#8217;s blog, mashaAllah, she is a resident of Madinah..much longer than I and she posts beneficial information with beautiful pics on history, geography, current happenings poems, and much more on our Ummah..most of which is related to Madinah Munawarra.
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		<title>by: almiskeenah</title>
		<link>http://suhaa.myminaret.com/2008/03/30/haramain-diversity-swells-big-time/#comment-687</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 07:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Assalamu alaikum Dear Sister Suhaa, Umrah Mabruk to all! I too had a chuckle reading parts of that article, I mean the lockers have not been there for more than a year. I do agree that some of the duty sisters are far too aggressive. The brothers are not treated with such suspicion, nor are they subjected to being told certain Du'a books are haram.  I feel they should do away with the sisters at the entrance doors altogether to avoid the congestion...maybe they could initially join the ones who roam around inside with the intention of gently reminding visitors if any untoward thing is seen...like you say, inappropriate food items, or more upsetting to me is the habit of so many putting the Qur'an on the floor! A few years ago it was common to see children persistently climbing and jumping from the pillars, but with a diligent effort on saying this is not appropriate this has almost stopped, and thus I feel a similar effort on what is sensible inside and what is not would Insha'Allah bear fruit. It was not that long ago that Masjidal Haram Makkah searched sisters bags, but now that they do not then I do not feel sisters have abused the situation. What I find far more upsetting is the yelling of the duty sisters during Ziyarah time...unnecessarily and frantically yelling out nationalities and when it is a clear instruction for us to keep our voices low when in the company of Rasulullah SallAllahu alaihi wasallam.
Please...no more billboards! So much clutter already. I feel the onus is on tour group leaders to educate pilgrims before they arrive, like many countries already do. 
May Allah Ta'ala guide us all and reveal the best way to deal with this situation, Ameen.
Wassalamu alaikum</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Assalamu alaikum Dear Sister Suhaa, Umrah Mabruk to all! I too had a chuckle reading parts of that article, I mean the lockers have not been there for more than a year. I do agree that some of the duty sisters are far too aggressive. The brothers are not treated with such suspicion, nor are they subjected to being told certain Du&#8217;a books are haram.  I feel they should do away with the sisters at the entrance doors altogether to avoid the congestion&#8230;maybe they could initially join the ones who roam around inside with the intention of gently reminding visitors if any untoward thing is seen&#8230;like you say, inappropriate food items, or more upsetting to me is the habit of so many putting the Qur&#8217;an on the floor! A few years ago it was common to see children persistently climbing and jumping from the pillars, but with a diligent effort on saying this is not appropriate this has almost stopped, and thus I feel a similar effort on what is sensible inside and what is not would Insha&#8217;Allah bear fruit. It was not that long ago that Masjidal Haram Makkah searched sisters bags, but now that they do not then I do not feel sisters have abused the situation. What I find far more upsetting is the yelling of the duty sisters during Ziyarah time&#8230;unnecessarily and frantically yelling out nationalities and when it is a clear instruction for us to keep our voices low when in the company of Rasulullah SallAllahu alaihi wasallam.<br />
Please&#8230;no more billboards! So much clutter already. I feel the onus is on tour group leaders to educate pilgrims before they arrive, like many countries already do.<br />
May Allah Ta&#8217;ala guide us all and reveal the best way to deal with this situation, Ameen.<br />
Wassalamu alaikum
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